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	Post: #1   Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:06 am Conor Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 154 Pictures: 0 Location: Lands Registry   Hi all, I’ve just introduced myself on the Introduce Yourself Board I’ve never posted to a forum before. My first post is not a happy one. I have made an internet site *EDITED* to expose, “name and shame” Christoforos Karayiannas & Son Ltd. and what they have done to my family. They are property developers based in Paralimni and we were to buy a four bedroom detached house from them. No 30 Ayios Sergios in Frenaros. On my site you can read our contract, see our photo’s, read all correspondence and even listen to the audio of our meetings with them. We have nothing to hide and now very little left to loose. There is no defamation on my site. Examine the evidence for yourselves. You will see how Karayiannas & Son deceived us before contract, now ignore that contract (deposited in the land registry) refuse to deliver our house and have kept all our money. I have just read in the “Your Developments » Ayios Sergios. Frenaros” topic, that they are renting out OUR house. I’ll reply to that comment, in that forum when that shocker sets in. Plus I’ve got to talk again to our lawyer. It does show motive for their breach. They will not profit from their actions! You can read about how Christoforos Karayiannas was arrested for assault and Marios Karayiannas was arrested for criminal damage and follow their upcoming trial. My case is NOT a complicated one. I show everything on my site which takes some committed reading. There is a summary on the front page. The letter I sent to them on the 13th Feb 2006 (on “their lies” page) is an important read. I’ve put important quotes in the margins of all pages. The audio is best studied with the transcripts. They are essential for anyone wishing to do business with Marios Karayiannas. My family is now living in rented accommodation. We stayed silent for a year now in the hope they would do the right thing…they didn’t. It is now time to tell our story so others can learn from our mistakes. I welcome constructive “objective” comments but please give me an idea as to how deep you studied my site and I’ll know where you’re at. We are gathering evidence for our court cases, if you can help us in any way please get in touch. If you prefer you can contact me in private. This whole experience is just a setback and not a cancellation of our move to Cyprus. We still intend to settle in the Frenaros / Paralimni area. Regards Conor URL Removed

	Post: #2   Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:31 am tedbel Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 55 Pictures: 0 Location: Kent/Paralimni/Pafos   Conor, just read your posting its outragous, i wish you all the luck and hopefully it will be resolved in your favour. Dave.

	Post: #3   Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:47 am Ristac Forum Moderator Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1744 Pictures: 13 Location: East Midlands: Northampton   Hi Connor Welcome to the board, just for the record I am the moderator who removed your website links. Please take a moment to read some of the rules, one of which states that you are not allowed to post URL's into the main area. You can put a link to your website in your profile and people will be able to click and read it via your small www symbol but this will not appear until you have made a few more posts. This is a feature to stop people just popping in to spam. I am not moderating anything else in your post, I understand your frustrations but please wait until your www link is enabled before trying to mention a URL address. EDIT *I have just had a good read through your site, I do wish you well with it and I too would be mad as a hatter. Please remember that developers and retailers all visit this forum. If we were to make an exception and allow your posts to contain url's to external sources all kinds of accusations would start to fly around. Use this forum wisely and I am sure it will be a great aid in your fight to get justice. We have a very good legal guy who gives great advice, take a look at the Ask Nigel section* Last edited by Ristac on Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:16 pm; edited 2 times in total

	Post: #4   Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:58 am Road Warrior Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Posts: 958 Pictures: 5 Location: Atlantis   Hi Connor, Was fortunate enough to get the URL before it was edited out, will watch this with interest and I wish you luck with your case, I'm sure that it will be of interest to prospective buyers. _________________ When one door closes..................another one slams in your face.

	Post: #5   Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:12 pm journeyman Joined: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 1278 Pictures: 36 Location: Dorset,Paralimni   Connor, I too got the Link, I will pass this on to people I know who Bought from them and are not happy. Graham _________________ Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning

	Post: #6   Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:30 pm Conor Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 154 Pictures: 0 Location: Lands Registry   Apologies for the mistake with the URL in the main area. I searched for the rules but could only find a “BBCode guide” I understand now that if people wish to go to my site they click on my Profile and my link is there. Thankyou Thank you also to Tedbel , Road Warrior and journeyman for your kind words. Also to those who have just made contact privately. Ristac – Thanks for your further comments. I had infact contacted Nigel yesterday and were in touch by email. Cheers Conor

	Post: #7   Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:41 pm Ristac Forum Moderator Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1744 Pictures: 13 Location: East Midlands: Northampton   Conor wrote: Apologies for the mistake with the URL in the main area. I searched for the rules but could only find a “BBCode guide” I understand now that if people wish to go to my site they click on my Profile and my link is there. Thankyou Thank you also to Tedbel , Road Warrior and journeyman for your kind words. Also to those who have just made contact privately. Ristac – Thanks for your further comments. I had infact contacted Nigel yesterday and were in touch by email. Cheers Conor No problem, it won't take you long to get the required amount of posts before your www appears. You do not want anything jeopardising your chances, the developer will no doubt get to hear of his name being mentioned on this board and as long as the board admin remains fair and impartial there hopefully wont be any problems.

	Post: #8   Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:57 pm nhowarth Forum Moderator Joined: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 1796 Pictures: 4 Location: Erimi, Limassol   Conor contacted me a couple of days ago & I've spent some time looking through his website. Fortunately he has all the evidence of what's happened, including recordings of conversations and 'promises' made by the developer. I know I keep going on about this, but it's essential that when a developer 'promises' to do something you get it written into your agreement or documented - Conor has got his on tape, which should (hopefully) convince the authorities to decide in his favour. Good luck Conor & keep us posted on progress. Regards, _________________ Nigel Howarth

	Post: #9   Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:14 pm cosmic Joined: 16 Nov 2006 Posts: 11 Pictures: 0   I was sorry to read about your experience. Its interesting how even when you manage to do all the right things, developers can still manage to foul things up. It would be much worse for anyone who was not as meticulous a record keeper as yourself, hoping for a good outcome for you.

	Post: #10   Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:27 pm Janet Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 157 Pictures: 0   What an awful story! I feel so sorry that you and your family have had this terrible experience. I am sure that thousands will have read your experiences with Christoforos Karayiannas & Son by the end of next week-- the internet has a knack of spreading the word. Good Luck Janet

	Post: #11   Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:09 pm Marc Duffy Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 157 Pictures: 0 Location: Watford, Hertfordshire   Heavy s**t, good luck Conor

	Post: #12   Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:49 pm Conor Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 154 Pictures: 0 Location: Lands Registry   Thank you all for the kind comments both in the public forum and privately via email and on the phone. After a year, remaining quite until all avenues were exhausted, the last 5 hours since we posted have been emotional. I see the site is suffering from heavy traffic at the moment; I will invest in a load balancing service. The site is not going anywhere so please come back if it’s down. Remember to return to this forum if you have any comments. Thanks Conor

	Post: #13   Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:16 pm Elizavet Joined: 16 Jul 2005 Posts: 3793 Pictures: 6 Location: W. Yorkshire,Sotira   Conor wrote: Thank you all for the kind comments both in the public forum and privately via email and on the phone. After a year, remaining quite until all avenues were exhausted, the last 5 hours since we posted have been emotional. I see the site is suffering from heavy traffic at the moment; I will invest in a load balancing service. The site is not going anywhere so please come back if it’s down. Remember to return to this forum if you have any comments. Thanks Conor Conor, Your situation has brought a lot back to us , we are sorry to hear your dreams have been destroyed. . How can they rent your property out? _________________ Elizavet

	Post: #14   Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:38 pm pantheman Forum Sponsor Joined: 27 May 2006 Posts: 2300 Pictures: 0 Location: Avgorou   Conor wrote: Thank you all for the kind comments both in the public forum and privately via email and on the phone. After a year, remaining quite until all avenues were exhausted, the last 5 hours since we posted have been emotional. I see the site is suffering from heavy traffic at the moment; I will invest in a load balancing service. The site is not going anywhere so please come back if it’s down. Remember to return to this forum if you have any comments. Thanks Conor Conor, so sorry to hear your story and be assured i will make it known about the conduct of this firm. Not wanting to add insult to injury, the lawyers G.Pittadjis is also causing me some grief right now. You can see my posts in the advocates section. I think they are a bunch of crooks too!! I hope you manage to aleast get back you money and compensation for your hassle. Best of luck. Pantheman. I did suggest a name and shame section but ..........?

	Post: #15   Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:46 pm johnrose Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 275 Pictures: 0 Location: Kapparis   Hi Conor Sounds like we need an O group Lets get them Regards John Rose

	Post: #16   Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:29 pm Conor Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 154 Pictures: 0 Location: Lands Registry   johnrose wrote: Hi Conor Sounds like we need an O group Lets get them Regards John Rose Yea, Rodger that John LOL Thanks Conor Thanks also to the others for you kind words of support. pantheman- I'll check out your G. Pittadjis in the advocates section. I'm certainly no stranger to his handywork Cheers Conor

	Post: #17   Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:43 pm Kwacka Forum Moderator Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 4792 Pictures: 3   I understand there are now two Pittadjis law firms. Originally father (George) and son worked together, but now I'm told they have gone their separate ways. Could be just gossip of course. _________________ Common sense is nothing more than a deposit of prejudicies laid down in the mind before you reach eighteen. Albert Einstein

	Post: #18   Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:00 am Steve - SJD Site Admin Joined: 16 Jul 2005 Posts: 9096 Pictures: 46 Location: Vrysoulles   Conor, Good luck with this and I hope that it gets resolved to your satisfaction asap and without further trouble! Prior to this I hadn't really heard of any major complaints with them but this is obviously unacceptable behaviour. Looks like your posting has been read over a thousand times already so it will get exposure. Good luck! Cheers Steve

	Post: #19   Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:31 am Elizavet Joined: 16 Jul 2005 Posts: 3793 Pictures: 6 Location: W. Yorkshire,Sotira   pantheman wrote: [. I did suggest a name and shame section but ..........? I remember that topic but sometimes the results of that can be very hard to deal with, Conor and Micheala have been brave enough to go this far in their quest for justice . I hope they get it , this could have driven another buyer not as strong to suicide . To be in that situation now when all you wanted was to live the dream , is more than some other person could handle. Developers need to realise that any changes to the surroundings or site plans should be fed back to the buyers and when new sets of plans are issued that all parties involved are warned and given notice. The feeling of turning up and finding out that a property is facing the "wrong way" or hemmed in by another building built by the same developer with no thought for his buyers is not acceptable and can cause enough stress to give someone a heart attack!!! _________________ Elizavet

	Post: #20   Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:22 am jims Joined: 01 Apr 2006 Posts: 321 Pictures: 2 Location: Dherynia   Conor did you investigate this company before you decided to purchase from them? If they are as bad as you say, surely something would have come up. I have to declare an interest here as I have a Karayiannas house and along with many others have been very happy with the quality of build and the pre and post sales service. Regards Jim

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